How to improve Shonen Jump Alpha (been reading manga for 14 years)

Submitted by Napoleon88 on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 21:16
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As a member who just started paying as of today and someone who has been reading manga since below American Shonen Jump even existed, I have a few constructive criticisms of the site I think would be vital to win over more readers to Shonen Jump Alpha.

Firstly, I understand the administrators of this website really don't control policies like censoring, release schedules, and so on and those are a separate issue. However the format of Shonen Jump Alpha and this website in general is extremely frustrating to navigate. Some things that could help:

A.) Allow instant access to any series from the list in the table of contents. It's annoying having to memorize the page number and move the curser to that page should I want to read a chapter.
B.) Have auto-adjuster for double page spreads or images. Many (like myself) prefer to view only 1 manga page per internet page, yet seeing half of what's going on if the page is a double spread is certainly annoying. Simply adjust the page viewer so that a double page translates into 1 internet page. Every online manga reader so far has done this format and it's extremely simple, and makes for a much more pleasurable viewing experience.
C.) Please I can not stress enough to try and include every series that is in the Japanese Weekly Shonen Jump, it is not fair to readers. Hunter x Hutner especially is a must.

I Hope these comments are read, and hope they help. A far simpler but efficient manga viewer is needed.

Comments

Submitted by AmaranthSparrow on Sat, 02/11/2012 - 23:32

While I don't work for VIZ, I can address some of your issues.

A.) WSJA is basically a digital version of Weekly Shonen Jump, which is a huge anthology magazine with a table of contents (and the ordering of manga also changes every week). You have to manually page to the series you want to read.

B.) Again, manga and comics are actually generally written and drawn with the intent of seeing two pages at a time, as that's how they're printed. Personally, I prefer the "two pages" view, as it replicates the feeling of reading an actual print manga or comic, and sometimes the page layouts are designed to take advantage of this. Most *official* manga and comic viewers I'm aware of, including Shueisha's viewer on the Japanese WSJ and Jump Comics sites, use a "two page" view.

C.) This really boils down to an issue of licensing. There are currently 20 series running in Weekly Shonen Jump. Several of them likely aren't even available for international licensing yet, and many will likely never be popular enough to draw attention from mainstream international audiences.

Consider that many of the series in WSJ aren't even that popular in Japan, and are liable to get cancelled at any moment due to poor performance in reader polls. Kagami no Kuni no Harisugawa was cancelled just last week, and several others likely won't last until summer, let alone the end of the year. ST&RS, for example, has consistently been in the bottom 3 in reader polls for about three months now.

Now consider that VIZ has to pay licensing fees AND employees for each series they license. That's a major investment, especially when several of the series are basically guaranteed to be flops.

When it comes to Hunter X Hunter... I'd personally be pretty nervous about serializing that. Translating tankobon is one thing, but serializing each week? The mangaka is notoriously lazy and the series winds up going into hiatus frequently.

Now, all that said, I'd like to add:

A.) VIZ's online viewer could indeed benefit from a bit more functionality. It already supports user bookmarks, so perhaps bookmarks to chapters/series could be built into new releases.

C.) If there are particular series you really would like to see serialized, it would probably be best to make a case for the series individually, and to support them by buying the translated volumes to show that there's demand. Certainly, several of the series should have decent enough prospects. At the very least, Reborn, Beelzebub, Gintama, and Sket Dance are all pretty popular.

Also, regarding THIS website's navigation, I agree. It seems like articles, comments, and forum posts are sorted kind of willy nilly, rather than simply being categorized, dated, and listed in order.

Submitted by agila61 on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 09:28

For reading on smaller screens, the Viz Manga viewer is even worse than the JManga.com viewer. At least JManga.com holds zoom, once you know the trick to navigate by page rather than using "next page".

On my netbook, when I click on Bakuman in the Manga sampler, I get a full double page spread with a bar under it that tells me it is 45%, which I take it means that its about 45% the original size. I have to zoom up to 75% for it to be readable. And then, instead of any way to hope corner to corner (at 75%, I'd be able to read a two page spread quite easily top-left corner, bottom left corner, top right corner, bottom right corner), I have to drag and slide the page like the horrible el-cheapo manga viewers available at those bootleg viewer sites.

And then when I click next page I LOSE THE ZOOM and have to do it all over again to the exact same zoom level for EACH AND EVERY PAGE. Just like the horrible el-cheapo freeware javascript manga viewers on the bootleg sites!

How do you expect to get people to pay a bit for the series, with region restrictions and calendar restrictions and limited selection and everything else that goes with a legit release, IF YOU DON'T OFFER A BETTER READING EXPERIENCE?

For a netbook sized screen, four corner viewing is all you'd need to support. Heck, with "next page" and "prior page" hooked to corner by corner, and mapped to the left and right cursor keys, you could read 4Koma by "next/back/next, next/back/next", etc. The buttons for the two page and one page displays are already there ~ if you have a four-corner display mode, that held zoom in four-corner mode, then for full two page spreads you could just hit the two page button, see the full spread, then pop right back into four corner mode to see what is going on.

I think four corner viewing might also work for my Nook Color, which is something that matters more now that you are boosting the size of your digital tankobon selection in the Nook estore. If it does work for 7" displays, that would mean that the web viewer would work for the Nook Color, Nook Tablet, Kindle Fire, and all of the other 7" media tablets out there, and you would not have to roll out a distinct Android app for each different version of 7" Android media tablet.

As it is, your online viewer is even worse on a 7" Android browser than on a PC netbook browser ~ while the JManga online viewer is a pain on a 7" media tablet, at least JManga allows the display to be slid around with the touchscreen devices. Your zoom does not work with a touchscreen device, so if the reader does not get the pinch to zoom JUST RIGHT to catch the part of the screen they want, they have to zoom back to 36% and try again. Never mind being as lame as the el-cheapo viewers on the bootleg sites ~ for 7" media tablets, your manga viewer is MUCH WORSE than the el-cheapo viewers on the bootleg sites.

Submitted by anifanatical on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 09:37

A) As you say, Sparrow, WSJA is a digital version of WSJ. As a digital version, it has the ability to completely exceed the standard of print monthly SJ. To say that the digital product should not have an interactive table of contents which allows readers to quickly navigate the magazine simply because it is a digital version of a print magazine is utterly ridiculous. Other digital magazines also allow quick navigation, there's no reason VIZ Media is incapable of doing the same.

B) He was not suggesting VIZ Media do away with two-page reading views. He was merely suggesting that the single page viewer be updated, and I cannot agree more. The fact of the matter is that much of the new digital audience is used to reading scanlations on a page-by-page basis -- regardless of how manga is originally published. If VIZ Media truly wishes to maintain popularity with the online audience, they need to adapt themselves to the desires of everyone. The single page view in the current format is sorely lacking (one can only hope it looks better when read on a mobile device or tablet), while the two page view seems to work well. BOTH need to be viable options for readers.

C) WSJA has already admitted that its selection is scant and that they will be looking to increase the available series depending on the level of success of the online reader. Be patient, and support the company and hopefully we'll see more product soon.

Submitted by agila61 on Thu, 02/16/2012 - 09:32

... maybe on an iPad, but not on a 7" screen or smaller.

LOTS of problems on a media tablet.

(1) The buttons are badly designed and rarely actually WORK on a touchscreen.

(2) Unlike PerfectViewer, when you are zoomed up, you can slide comics OFF SCREEN. Why? The sensible behavior for a touch screen device is you flick it and it "catches" when the edge of the page hits the edge of the screen, and stalls there. Sliding AROUND to show DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE PAGE, yeah. Sliding around to show THE GREY SCREEN BEHIND THE PAGE? That's a design failure.

(3) Like PerfectViewer, it resets the zoom to full page on every page turn. UNLIKE PerfectViewer, resetting the zoom is a royal PITA because the buttons don't work. PerfectViewer splits the screen three ways rights to left and then the middle it split five ways top to bottom ~ tap the right spot in the middle and it zooms up and down. A lot easier to hit than the tiny button, where half the time you page back instead of getting the zoom and then have to start all over again. Very frustrating.

And the solution is EASY: have a setting that LOCKS THE ZOOM on page turns.

Fixes:

(1) Setting to pick between on screen controls and pop-up controls. Make the pop-up controls when you select in the bottom 1/5 of the display (top 4/5 for next page and last page is plenty), and make them BIG buttons.

(2) Setting to lock zoom on page turns

(3) Setting to hold top right hand corner instead of middle of page when zooming

(4) When zoomed out so part of the page is out of view, lock page sliding at the page edges. This should be the default for zoomed, no matter whether the page zoom is locked or not.

Make these four fixes, and it would be a workable reader on media tablets and even smaller screen PCs like netbooks. As it is, however, for me, "no useful reader, no buy". I aint paying for this crap online reader that makes my eyes ache and forces me to spend minutes getting each page back to where it can be read.

Submitted by narutobleach16y... on Sun, 02/12/2012 - 13:06

i chose my 3 free digital volumes yesterday but i cannot access them someone help

Submitted by urian brown on Tue, 02/14/2012 - 14:14

... sjalpha@viz.com and they should be able to help you.

Thanks!

Submitted by narutman on Tue, 07/10/2012 - 21:00

Loging in should be doable through facebook. This will make logging in easier for alot of people!

Submitted by masashikishimoto on Mon, 09/10/2012 - 17:03

The covers of sj alpha look extremely lazy how many people work there please make it better!!!

Submitted by masashikishimoto on Mon, 09/10/2012 - 17:03

The covers of sj alpha look extremely lazy how many people work there please make it better!!!